AOTGL 3CD RE-ISSUE 7 JUNE

[Kleptomaniac]

Finally confirmed:

http://www.hmv.co.jp/en/product/detail/3808259

Wonder what the tracklisting is.

[Admin]

This info is from EMI:

It's currently scheduled for June 7th 2010 and is a 3CD Collector's Edition of the classic album 'Attack Of The Grey Lantern'. It consists of the original album remastered, with two bonus discs full of pre-album E.P.'s ('Take It Easy, Chicken', 'Skin Up Pin Up'); alternative, acoustic and live versions; b-sides ('Rebel Without A Quilt', 'Flourella', 'The Duchess,' and many more); Draper's co-write with Magazine's Howard Devoto, 'Everyone Must Win', and a new remix of '(I'm In A) Wide Open Space' by Greg Downey, which Nebula will be releasing on 7th June.

I'm currently working with EMI on the online promo of the release, so I'll post more info as it becomes available.

[Kleptomaniac]

Hopefully plenty of unreleased material and the cassette only acoustic tracks. Seems there'll be quite a bit of overlapping with Kleptomania and Legacy/Best Of though?

[doggz]

Found this info posted on Friday on IMWAN.

if it's official, track-listing looks like everything from One EP to Seven EP, including cassette tracks. Nothing new apart from the wide open space remix.

http://www.imwan.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=62711

Not sure how real that is, i'd be more interested in the planned BBC sessions compilation though

[hillebrandt]

As I compared the tracklist to the EPs, it seems to be lacking the Lisa Marie Experience Remix of Taxloss from Taxloss single cd1 and those other remixes from Taxloss Remixes UK promo 12" single, but luckily we'll have digitally those acoustic versions from 7"s... I wonder, will the AOTGL be remastered...

It is available to pre-order for €21.99 from here:
http://www.cdwow.ie/CD/mansun-attack-of-the-grey-lantern-collectors-edition/dp/9352835#bc=d58c

I'm also waiting for the BBC Sessions...

[Admin]

£15.99 at Amazon: http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASI ... /ref=nosim

[jimmyb]

Is Paul planning on doing any press for this release?

[Hiroki]

Anyone know if the 2 bonus discs are remastered?

[Kleptomaniac]

No, neither is the album itself. Someone mentioned it on the other forum a couple of months ago and I compared when I picked it up on Monday.

[Face In The Crowd]

I think the definition of remastering has been blurred and/or abused over the years. Please correct me if I'm talking bollocks at any point here btw.

Wiki describes the process of mastering as follows:

Mastering, a form of audio post-production, is the process of preparing and transferring recorded audio from a source containing the final mix to a data storage device (the master); the source from which all copies will be produced (via methods such as pressing, duplication or replication).

Remastering is basically the redoing of this process. However, when old 70's analogue recordings have been prepared for their new mastering they've decided to improve the original sound and/or repair damage done to the tapes over time for their CD release. This "digitally remastered" improvement has been marketed by the labels and noticed by keen listeners and remastering has now come to mean "making the sound better".

Frequently advertised with regard to CD and DVD releases, remastering has become a powerful buzzword in multimedia industries, and it generally implies quality enhancement of sound and/or picture to a previously existing recording (frequently designed to encourage people to buy a new version of something they already own). For example, the reissue boom that began in the mid-nineties saw remastered versions of the back-catalogues of Kiss, The Who, The Byrds and others, while remastered editions of first-generation DVD releases are similarly bestsellers. Despite its status as an industry buzzword, however, remastering actually refers to a fairly distinct process, one that does not inherently include the notion of a positive or neutral upgrade.

With AOTGL being a relatively new recording, there is not necessarily a need to improve the original sound from the analog masters (I'm assuming it was still done on analog, as was Six). They could have bumped the volume up as some releases have done, but this does have a detrimental effect.

While digitally remastering films or audio does generally improve their visual and/or sound quality, it is not always appreciated by everyone. Many remastered CDs from the late 1990s onwards have become casualties of the loudness war, where the average volume of the recording is pushed ever higher at the expense of dynamic range, making the new remastered version sound very different from the original one.

So all that has happened is that Ian Jones at Abbey Road has had the job of re-preparing the the original tapes for a new transfer for a new CD version.

Remastering is the process of making a new master for an album, movie, or any other creation. It tends to refer to the process of porting a recording from one analogue medium to another digital one, but this is not always the case.

The process of creating a digital transfer of an analogue tape re-masters the material in the digital domain, even if no equalization, compression, or other processing is done to the material. Ideally, because of their high resolution, a CD or DVD (or other) release should come from the best source possible, with the most care taken during its transfer.

If anyone can add to/correct this, please feel free. I suppose, in answer to your question - yes, this is a remaster, but no, there is not much (if any) improvement to the sound.

[Hiroki]

Thank you for the information

[Kleptomaniac]

Iyes, this is a remaster, but no, there is not much (if any) improvement to the sound.

That's because it hasn't been remastered.
A remaster actually involved some form of mastering - not just a new transfer from master tapes. Which they also haven't done here - as it would be quite difficult and completely pointless to take a previously unmastered tape from over 10 years ago and master it today to sound exactly like the previous CD edition.
The re-mastering credit in the sleeve will merely be crediting someone for compiling it (probably from reference CDs and DATs - or even the fucking CDs themselves... it happens) at Abbey Road.
"Re-mastered" is a record company buzzword used to try and flog the same thing to you more than once without offering you anything new. You will actually get people thinking it sounds better - without even bothering to compare.